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Tibetan - but what sort of ornament?

I picked these up at the Amsterdam ethnic jewellery fair this year. They are Tibetan and show nice wear, but what are they?
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  • The larger one has leather on its back, while the smaller one has metal. Hair rings perhaps? Ear rings? Thoughts please?

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  • gorgeous, am guessing hair ornaments, probably Linda will know.

  • Tibetan rings often have leather inside if smaller than these and could then be finger rings, or be worn on the thumb if a bit bigger. These look too big for the hand. Hairrings, as Marie-Ange says, is what fairly large rings frequently turn out to be, and that at fair blush seems the likeliest. Am I right in thinking that the inner measurements are (say) between 3 and 4 cm? For that would be quite normal for a hairring. I posted one of Facebook of that size in recent days, which we own ourselves. Linda has indeed also posted related pieces, and it should be added as a general observation that largish rings in Tibet could be, and were, used for more than one purpose. I would, as Marie-Ange says, ask Linda directly, as she is certain to have ideas on these and to have seen similar ones, which would help you to settle the issue further. But the one on the right (in a way easier to "take in") looks typically like a hairring to me, and the one which we have also has leather inside. So that does seem at least one likely solution to me. Nice pieces!

  • Marie-Ange and Joost are right but no earrings.

    Nice Tibetan hair-rings. Good for you to find some nice things there. I did not go this year, being disappointed that the last few years the quality was so low. And also that people that were selling fakes as the real stuff were allowed to sell these at the fair. 

  • Thanks for that interesting addition, Harald. And yes, you are right to add that they definitely could not be earrings.

  • I agree with you Harald the fair has not been as good as years ago and many good ethnic jewelry sellers have withdrawn from the show, very sad.....

    Can you recommend another good Tribal show in the Netherlands??

  • Thanks all.

    Joost, yes, these are way too large to be finger rings. The ring at the back of the larger one is sort of oval, although that could have been pressed out of shape - it's 4.5 cm x 2 cm, and the ring on the back of the smaller is 2.5 cm x 2 cm.

    I'd like to make these into something wearable without destroying their original elements. Ideas from all you creative people on this forum would be very welcome!

    Harald, as you had mentioned before, there were few stalls with genuine pieces and most carried a mix of old and new. It was good enough of a selection for me though, coming from Copenhagen, where we have almost nothing in terms of old ethnic jewellery.  I might try the Bruneaf or Parcours next year....

  • Hi Preethi, - I would *not* change them, as they are complete jewellery items, which were used in this form. Collectors would not thank you. As for Bruneaf and the Parcours: yes you can buy, but almost certainly you would find them dearer than a minor Fair like the Amsterdam one. Of course, there is always the odd cheaper item, and both Brussels and Paris contain jewellery dealers irrespective of the fairs, as well. Both are major ethnic jewellery centres. London is good, if you can find things, since the Brits on the whole look down on tribal cultures. As English dealers often say: we have the heritage, but not the collectors. Best wishes! - Joost

  • Of course, not all ethnic jewellery is tribal, and London also has, in any case, dealers with expensive stock. Still, it is easier to find others, as well, than in Brussels or Paris.

  • Preethi you asked if there are more Tribal shows. There are a few but no jewelry there.I am afraid there are not any other than this one in the Duif. Sometime there are a few jewelry items on The Pan  exhibition at the end of november and there is one lady there that sells gold jewelry from India. But it is all extremely expensive, sometimes old sometimes newly made. Beautiful workmanship but very flashy.

    The site for when you might be interested to have a look:

    http://www.vangelderjewellery.com/Van-Gelder-Indian-Jewellery-Catal...

    And as I wrote before Brussels Bruneaf and Paris Parcours du Monde might have some items but also there might be nothing. It is much more interesting to go there for the Primitive Art, Antiquity or Asian Art items. 

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