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  Preethi April 12, 2013 at 10:12am

  By the way, the way it happened was that one of the front panels broke first releasing quite a bit of white-chalk-like material, which seemed to be holding the panels in place. With that gone, the second one just sank down. An image of the white material is below.

  I'm curious if this is how these rings were manufactured?

  
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  ait ouakli April 12, 2013 at 10:18am

  yes preethi. this can be repared, it looks turkoman to me
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  Patricia Deany April 12, 2013 at 3:20pm

  Interesting info, Virgo, does chalk weigh that much in terms of the amount of silver that is already used in these items? Could not the white material serve another purpose other than that in trying to deceive people buying the ring? Does anybody know how these are made and if there is another purpose for the filler -- it would seem to me if you were trying to add weight you could find something far heavier than chalk to add to the piece? Just asking for more information.
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  Patricia Deany April 12, 2013 at 3:58pm

  Thanks Waqar, makes perfect sense that the chalk is there to protect the silver setting.
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  Patricia Deany April 12, 2013 at 4:35pm

  Beautiful display, Waqar, and excellent information. I am sure that Preethi will find it very interesting.
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  Ethnic Embellishments April 12, 2013 at 4:49pm

  It can be filled with plaster and then new glass can be cut and set in the bezel.  Then the silver pieces should go over the bezel and closed tightly with a tool for tightening bezels.
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  Alaa eddine SAGID April 12, 2013 at 11:24pm

  Precious information here.
  
  Chalk. cut glass. wac and even velvet fabric on any solid material cut to fit inside then you set the silver bezel ontop and glue it.
  
  Tricks such as these always come handy and they dont require a smith
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  Linda Pastorino April 12, 2013 at 11:41pm

  Once change, I would re use same glass and not new glass just put broken piece back cracked under , with lid you wont see much unless it's not that old looking at all then won't matter. Usually used old glass looks a bit better.  wax or newspaper any stuffing under and use two part bond JB weld glue (that is brand here) that glues metal. Use on tooth pick to use on bezel area only so it's fine line of glue, dries in 24 hours.  The caps are flat enough to fit over the bezels without even doing any labor of re molding them with a tool. Just use a good bonding epoxy.

  This style ring is Kasakh but the age of this one is from the 70;s when they started reproducing them forward to now in Kazakh style. Even posted in Kalter and Gull book are styles of Kazakh but made in Afghanistan older too. But the Kazakh ones are very similar but different in that they don't have as much gilding and are not as stamped out looking. These Aghan ones tend to look more commercial looking then Kazakh ones. This one was also made in Afghanistan.
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  Patricia Deany April 13, 2013 at 11:45am

  Sorry for the misunderstanding but it actually bore a lot of interesting fruit -- lots of ideas as to the structure and repair of this item.
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  Linda Pastorino April 13, 2013 at 2:12pm

  I must say that in India there were certain dealers that will remain nameless, (those of us who dealt with them know who they were ) had great things but also used to add cement inside the silver so that the weight was more. This was an old trick and it had nothing to do with smashing or denting. sometimes we would open up and see inside and then also return and show that this had been done.  Usually lac was used in the old days and if something had cement in it or chalk this meant that it had been added later in India was the case and I'm sure in Afghanistan as well the old method was lac. These rings however were made more recently so it's not something that would have been done to fake but in this case I believe was meant to hold the shape.  I have one ring which is made like this also. Every time my hand hits something white powder comes out.  It looks like drugs or talcum powder. My ring looks a bit different then this and always wondered what is going on and why this is happening.  It's the only one I have that does that but it's the biggest one I have. So it was also probably made in this method. I always believed mine to be made in Kazakhstan but maybe they did the same there?