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LIBIA, Berberi, collana della fertilità, "aghaiz", coralli, sfere in argento e "hilal".
Nice Siwa necklace!
i like a lot.
According to Sand and SIlver by Margaret Vale these necklaces were worn as part of the wedding finery. The bride continued to wear it everyday for its protective powers and to help bring children to the marriage. It has been said that with the birth of each baby boy, a curved end piece would be snipped off the pendant, but that has been contradicted by some Siwan women who indicate that the necklace is too valuable to allow the pendants to be disfigured.
Sigrid says about these pendants
Yes, sometimes one of the ends has been broken off, in Egypt is said to be a sign that the mother bore a son. However, the practise of wearing this necklace is not the same everywhere: in some areas the number of pendants actually indicates the number of children, sometimes they are worn in larger quantities, but in general they all indicate the same status i.e. a mother. Weissenberger (1998) offers more information on these pendants in the publication of Frank Bliss, partially based on earlier research by Peter Schienerl.
I had a look at the pendant on your website and the stamp appears to be Libyan in fact! So it fits nicely into the region!
yes, salhat is pliral.
nice discussion.
it is actualy a horseshoe form. horseshoe is and still until now a protection talisman in many cultures, we find until now, in all continents, cars,houses,doors,stores wth the hoseshoe.
it is actualy , as ptti wrote, different from region to other. i can add more precision about the religion and belives side.
the Aures women wear the in 1 or 3 big pieces in a necklace. 5 or 7 middle until small pieces. they are a prt of wedding finery and worn dayly
the jewish women, wear 6 pieces as necklace and they get it also as weding finery, when it is not 6, then it has to do with the nirth of a boy child. it is the same as in marocco. the mother goes to other mothers who have healthy boys childs and become from each a pice of silver coin, goes with to a smith and let make one or more of this hawafir. it is the talisman for long and healthy life for the kid .
other parts of regions in tunisia or lybia and egypt, if there is fish on it, it is an old bysantic belive in luck and it is then a talisman for good luck und fertility.
if there is not a fish, it is a protectionand good luck talisman
i ment plural
Tribal, my dear friend :-)
nice to see how deep you go in some area ( patterns,saples and ancestral tribal/ethnic forms) and i know that is not the only strongnes you have in the world of art and jewelry.
i ll make it short and talk to you later in privat, i dont want to bother people here with our subject.
can we consider now any form close to known old civilisation or cultur as a descendent or contnuation of what was considerated ??
is any circle, triagle in the recent ethnic / tribal believe has roots in the old ones and the same meaning ?
is the old ethnic / tribal world connected and sharing the same interpretations ?
is old egypt ( pharao ) the basic of the recent tribal / ethnic culture ? is there any direct connection with northafrica ??
a concret evidence in the connection between northafrica and old egypt is there but not north ( coast ) but more south ( sahara ) . it has withnthe formation of sahara and population living there that time .
north, mediteranee side was completly different and was more influenced from bysantic,romain,vandale , greek,romain and iranian cultures ( before islam time )
i think it is enough, talk to you later
I guess I was lucky that Bianca uploaded this lovely pic thus giving me the chance to learn from your very interesting discussion. Thanks to everyone for sharing your knowledge!