Ethnic Jewels

An appreciation of ethnic jewellery and adornment

Claude Watson
  • Phayamengrai,Thailand
  • Afghanistan
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Glass Bead type,origin,and dating if anyone can assist.

Started this discussion. Last reply by ann Jun 11, 2014. 3 Replies

I have purchased a necklace of I think old glass beads.They have large piercings and faces on them.The smaller beads have two aliens,at least thats what they look like,and the larger bead has three…Continue

 

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SARAH CORBETT commented on Claude Watson's photo
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"Thank you Jamey  I appreciate your in depth information on these beads and others"
Aug 12, 2014
Jamey D. Allen commented on Claude Watson's photo
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"Dear Claude,  I have discussed these beads and the issues related to faking at the BeadCollector Network Forum uncountable times.  Although I no longer participate there, the Forum and Archive include thousands of message I have posted…"
Aug 12, 2014
ann replied to Claude Watson's discussion Glass Bead type,origin,and dating if anyone can assist.
"Hi Frankie & Claude, The glass beads from tina4timeless on ebay are new beads, maybe some vintage.   I bought a number from her, very nice, but definitely NOT old and they are newly made and copied from old Jatim…"
Jun 11, 2014
Jamey D. Allen replied to Claude Watson's discussion Glass Bead type,origin,and dating if anyone can assist.
"Dear Claude, These are recent beads made in East Java, in the region of Jombang.  I visited these beadmakers in 2008, but I have collected new Javanese glass beads since about 1989, when these industries first introduced their wares in the…"
Jun 10, 2014
Frankie Carter replied to Claude Watson's discussion Glass Bead type,origin,and dating if anyone can assist.
"See current Thai production of face beads @ eBay shop tina4timeless."
May 28, 2014
Anjali commented on Claude Watson's photo
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"Hi Claude.  Here are a couple of images I've found in the last few days.    One is single bead from beadcollector.net with accompanying discussion. The face itself is almost the exact same design as the face in your focal bead.…"
May 7, 2014
Frankie Carter commented on Claude Watson's photo
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"@Claude. Did you try a Google "image facebead" search? However, I think you`re right. There don`t seem to be as many good ones being made now as there were a couple of years ago. Maybe the afghans have moved on.... or back....."
May 6, 2014
Claude Watson commented on Claude Watson's photo
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"Thanks for the clear Anjali.I have been looking at websites about wood opal,,and have discovered quite a lot about.It really makes me think in fact that these are actually beads from a limb or branch.They are naturally shaped,as no one could shape…"
May 6, 2014
Claude Watson commented on Claude Watson's photo
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"Hi,and thanks,Frankie.Now ,you have really got my curiosity running.I have quite a few days now,tried to find any beads like these on anyones sites,new,reproduction,ancient,antiques,,you name it I tried.I see similar on etsy,but only similar.No one…"
May 6, 2014
Frankie Carter commented on Claude Watson's photo
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"All I know is that many of these beads are being sold through Thailand and are being mde currently. And have been for a few years. They are usually made of glass. Thailand has its` own admirable history of bead making. It really has no need to make…"
May 5, 2014
Anjali commented on Claude Watson's photo
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"Hi Claude.  Just to be clear, I don't really know what they are.  Mine was just a guess because I wasn't sure what those streaks were at the top.  There are people much more knowledgeable than I on this site.  I wish I…"
May 5, 2014
Claude Watson commented on Claude Watson's photo
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"Oh,,by the way,I am just so happy to know what they are now,even if they are no bright and shiny blue streaks.The guy was correct that sold them to me,,"they are very old,,I guarantee".For once at least!"
May 5, 2014
Claude Watson commented on Claude Watson's photo
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"Yes,your stone is quite stunning,or at least the photos of the stone.I always say if the photo is that beautiful,,"you have something special there"!Thanks for all of the comments,ideas,and information.I really appreciate everyone!"
May 5, 2014
Anjali commented on Claude Watson's photo
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"Hi Claude.  I couldn't tell from the picture whether those were veins of opal in the stones you have, but I sent the picture of the boulder opal just in case, especially since the matrix looked  similar.  The opal in boulder…"
May 4, 2014
ait ouakli commented on Claude Watson's photo
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"nowadayas, they are made from the afghans living in pakistan or india,thailand,indonisia and iran. they kept the technics and they are good. another tribes still do them or semilar ones for the own use. but they are different thus ones look to me…"
May 4, 2014
Ethnic Embellishments commented on Claude Watson's photo
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"Yes, Wicked Witch of the West faces to be sure!  Very fun beads."
May 4, 2014

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Ethnic/tribal
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Asia and middle eastern countries

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At 10:30 on December 30, 2013, Stefany Tomalin said…

dear Mr Watson

did you get all 3 lots of these recently?
Can you show or describe the holes and what you see inside ?
to me they look very much like types of newly-made possibly chinese replicas of some kind of composition, not old glass, which are in the exotic beads market these days and confuse a lot of people.
it would really be worthwhile to get the material they are made from analysed by a glass specialist.
Real Warring States beads are of glass, often over a visible base of ceramic material, and many are cylindrical.
We do not find them in the same designs in large numbers and graduated sizes.
Frankly speaking  i am sure they are fakes.
I’m sending this privately because I don’t want to embarrass you.

Stefany

 
 
 

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