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  • it is clean or have patina?
  • Looks like Tuareg work, or Fulani but would need to see several images first. It could be low- middle grade silver with brass as the alloy; this would account for the odd patina color.
  • Just saw the other photos in the forum.  A lot of older, vintage Tuareg and Fulani pieces will have this style of rougher work.  I've seen brass and white metal with superb workmanship and silver with poor workmanship.  Sarah, I would guess Mali or Niger, but it looks more Tuareg or Peul to me.
  • When I saw the design of the decoration, I also thought it could be Tuareg, very old. I have seen that sometimes other ethnical groups have used Tuareg style, especially the Peul (Fulani). So, it could be on of them, but I am not sure. I think Hillary could be right.
  • If this object was cleaned and continue with this patina, it is very old. Maybe Bronce Age: you can have a prehistoric piece in yor hands, but i need know and see more. It coincide with complex neolitics decorarios from north of Africa. Now I'm working with an alabaster Lamp: it likes roman but decoration is neolitic, i'm turning fool!!!! 
  • Hi all thanks for all of this great input. The piece belongs to a friend of mine.

    Here is a link to his original post with a couple more pics and description.

    https://ethnicjewels.ning.com/forum/topics/odd-bangle-sarah

    I have asked Uwe to join this discussion to explore the possibilities more.

     

    So many thank you's this week!! but here is another. Thank you all for your input here. It is wonderful to share our collective knowlege and to identify such treasures.

    Warm wishes

    Sarah

  • WOW, thanks for the great response and thanks to Sarah, for putting the question to a better place! I will try to add some more images here, from the borders and edges and the surface.

    I got this piece at the end of my last trip from my Berber friend Lahcen, when I said goodby to him, as a gift. I will ask him about more informations in December, when I will be back there, but I don´t think, much more will come up...My guess is, he got it from one of the traders or travelers from the "Morocco-Mauritania-Senegal-Mali-route", which sometimes have breaks in "our" small village, maybe for offering a room for a few nights.

    I did not clean anything and it´s still, as I got it in March. One half is looking darker than the other, inside as well as outside. For the traders it is usual, to rub with the fingers over the surface of metal pieces, to demonstrate to the interested customer, that the piece is easy to clean, to become more shiny...maybe an answer for the difference...The hole piece is irregular curved, so the center "cross" seems to be not in the middle.

    Diameter at the "cross": 46mm; Inside diameter: 66mm; between 1.8 and 2.3mm thick; weights 98grams

     

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  • Hi Uwe...love that you used a cute bead to prop up the bracelet for the pic!!

    If you fancy posting some of your bead collection too, I am sure everyone would love to see, and also would be grateful of your wisdom on the subject

    Sx

  • this piece has been traveling and chnaging owners since long time. i think, the same is now in a friend propriety. interesting to see it it here

    i m not sure but i can say it is from north nigeria

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